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One little critique from me is the second question, where they ask about the relationship between Thorin and Frodo! Wrong Hobbit guys 
A little bird came knocking today, and whispered some intriguing — and slightly baffling — news into our ears. Ringer Spy The Knocking Thrush, who is a reliable source, dropped us a line to let us know that New Line have registered a new title: The Hobbit: Into the Fire. But for what?
A quick reminder of the history of The Hobbit movie titles may be in order!
Back when we thought we were only getting two movies, the titles were to be An Unexpected Journey and There and Back Again.In July of 2012 the decision was made to make three films, with An Unexpected Journey still as the first title, but unknown titles for the next two films.Then we heard — from our same reliable source — that New Line had registered two new names — The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug and The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies. These titles seemed pretty clearly suited to parts two and three of a trilogy — so one might have thought There and Back Again was gone.By August 2012, however, it seemed that the titles were set as The Desolation of Smaug for part two, with There and Back Again retained for the third and final part. This title for part three seemed to be confirmed in other, later press releases, such as the one confirming the move of the release date from Summer to December 2014, as reported here. The Battle of Five Armies title had come to nothing — and There and Back Again has been used by press, cast, and all when discussing the film which will come out at the end of this year.
Now, we hear that New Line has registered this further title, The Hobbit: Into the Fire. What does this mean? Previously, The Knocking Thursh told us that – quoting from this post – ’because they must register their eventual title, studios often register multiple titles.’
One could believe that, back in 2012, The Battle of Five Armies was simply a ‘just in case’ extra title; but why would there be a need for such a ‘maybe’ title at this stage?
Staffer Demosthenes has some ideas…
Could There And Back Again simply have been a holding title for the past 18 months?
Brand is incredibly important to studios (just as it is to most multinationals). It seems to defy logic that New Line (and I guess Warner Bros and MGM) would abandon a name that’s built up a great deal of recognition among keen fans and casual moviegoers to the point where there’s an acronym for it — TABA.
It might be that they believe the title is confusing. After all, the Company is already There (ie: Erebor). But it’s just as logical to interpret the word there as referring to being there as it is to think that it must mean the act of travelling to there. I don’t think it’s really that confusing as a title.
Or maybe it’s a nod to the chapter of The Hobbit Out of the Frying Pan, Into The Fire. We’ve seen dialogue get reapportioned in entirely different contexts (sometimes by different speakers to the novels) in this way before. But I can’t see why they’d abandon There And Back Again — part of the novel’s title — merely to do that.
Once you really think about it, Into The Fire actually seems a better fit for the events that we’ve just witnessed in The Desolation of Smaug, not what we’ll see in the final film. Bilbo and Thorin have already experienced their trial by fire.
Alternatively, maybe New Line is planning some movie tie-in we don’t yet know about, and need to reserve intellectual property rights. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, comes of this.
- Our earlier post suggesting a baker’s dozen of alternative titles for The Hobbit: There And Back Again proved quite the hit.
And because so many of you tossed in even more brilliant suggestions, we thought we might as well do a sequel.
Studios do it, so why not us?
So without further ado, here are another 13 options — including the seemingly compulsory Electric Boogaloo — to replace There And Back Again. Just for funsies.
Bootnote: We also loved Breaking Bard as suggested by Eol and many others, Game of Dwarves from arthum, Weekend at Beornies by Blade Runner, Bilbo and his Amazing Technicolour Arkenstone from Legolas Cuthalion plus the following hilarious poster for Bilbo and Thorin’s Bogus Journey by Fotwuny.
Credit goes to Gwydion Madawc for Exit the Dragon, and the inspiration for The Eagles Have Landed, and Bard Strikes Back. Many apologies if I missed anyone — not deliberate!
By the way, if you missed our original spy report that sparked all the title change speculation, you can read it here.
Posted in Creations, Fans, Hobbit Book, Hobbit Movie, MGM, New Line Cinema, Parodies, Peter Jackson, Studios, The Hobbit, The Hobbit: There and Back Again, Warner Bros. on April 20, 2014 by Demosthenes -.It may be that Warner Bros., New Line and MGM are currently reviewed exactly what they should call the last film in the trilogy by Peter Jackson's Hobbit films. Or maybe they aren't. It is perhaps for some related thing (a video game connection, by chance?). We are not quite sure yet.
However, if a title change is in the air, the smartmouths of the internets would put in their two bob and suggest alternatives that might prove to be a hit with punters.
So, in no particular order, here are 13 additional options for Warner Bros., new line and Peter Jackson brain trust to mull over before settling indiscriminately on what any final:
BOOTNOTE: The credit goes to the inhabitants of r/reddit/films for 2Smaug2Furious, derived from the Middle-Earth and desolation of Smaug 2: sorry more difficult. In case you're wondering, the font for the subtitle seems to be Albertus MT Std uppercase, while the title font is a nifty custom work (probably developed in house at Weta) who goes by the name of Sauron.
Posted in creations, Fans, Hobbit Movie, MGM, New Line Cinema, Parodies, villas, Peter Jackson, the Hobbit, Bilbo the Hobbit: the desolation of Smaug, the Hobbit: there and Back Again, Warner Bros. on April 18, 2014 by DemosthenesIn a bit of April Fools' fun, here is someone's version of the end credits for The Hobbit: There and Back Again with song "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" performed by Leonard Nimoy. I just like the nice artwork.
“I can legitimately say right now that the third film doesn’t exist,” [Philippa Boyens] stressed before the questions started rolling in. “Pete’s cutting it. As an entity, it’s coming together. Actually that’s not true - we have a rough assembly, so to speak, of the shape of the film and the performances. I am excited, because one of the storylines I care a lot about is the Thorin one."
“Richard Armitage is extraordinary, as Thorin descends into madness,” she said of The Hobbit: There And Back Again’s dwarfish denouement.
Asked about the reasons for that Lake-town cliffhanger, Boyens explained that as a “natural break” in the story it was “the most obvious place to end the second film”. She added: “It felt so natural that I got a shock when the audience got a shock! If you can imagine what transpires next and what’s coming, it’s quite a huge chunk of storytelling. Not only that, but you enter into the tone of the third film, which is very definitely - as is the book, by the way - moving towards the world of Middle-earth as it becomes in Lord Of The Rings. Some dark stuff goes on.”
And what of the dwarves' decision to make that most elementary of movie errors: splitting up? “We made that decision [so we would] experience the attack on Lake-town through the eyes of people we've come a long way with,” she said. “We wanted some of the dwarves to understand what happened in that firestorm, that holocaust that rains down upon Lake-town. Bofur (James Nesbitt) comes more into his own in the third film. A rift begins to open up. And I can’t say much more without going into spoilers for film three, but it’s primarily because we needed him to be there when the dragon attacks."
